we have a new member for the Pilot Custom family, the Custom Urushi with #30 nib,
from the left, Custom Urushi, 845, 823, 743, 742, 74, 912, 91 and 92
the higher end models have thicker bands and trims.
the nibs:
| model | gold | size | color | EF | F | SF | FM | SFM | M | SM | B | BB | C | MS | PO | FA | WA | SU |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Urushi | 18k | 30 | two tone | Y | Y | Y | ||||||||||||
| 845 | 18k | 15 | two tone | Y | Y | Y | Y | |||||||||||
| 823 | 14k | 15 | single tone | Y | Y | Y | ||||||||||||
| 743 | 14k | 15 | single tone | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | |
| 742 | 14k | 10 | single tone | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| 74 | 14k | 5 | single tone | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | ||||
| 912 | 14k | 10 | single tone rhodium plated | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y |
| 91 | 14k | 5 | single tone rhodium plated | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | ||||||
| 92 | 14k | 5 | single tone rhodium plated | Y | Y | Y | Y |
all can use the CON-70 converter except 823 and 92.
the dimensions are as follows
| Model | length (mm) | pen length (mm) | diameter (mm) | weight (g) | pen weight (g) with CON-70 except 823 and 92 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Urushi | 155.0 | 140.2 | 20.0 | 42.94 | 24.91 |
| 845 | 146.3 | 132.2 | 15.9 | 28.31 | 16.75 |
| 823 | 148.4 | 131.2 | 15.7 | 28.68 | 18.87 |
| 743 | 148.0 | 131.6 | 15.7 | 25.51 | 15.77 |
| 742 | 145.8 | 127.9 | 15.7 | 23.74 | 14.82 |
| 74 | 143.1 | 125.6 | 14.7 | 21.22 | 13.26 |
| 912 | 140.5 | 125.1 | 15.7 | 24.28 | 15.33 |
| 91 | 137.9 | 122.8 | 14.7 | 21.29 | 13.26 |
| 92 | 136.8 | 122.2 | 14.7 | 19.95 | 11.99 |
the diameter are measured at the pen cap band.
Comparison of the feeds for the #30, #15, #10 and #5 nibs,
This is so helpful, thank you very much!
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ReplyDeleteThank you, its now in perspective, now to save up some money.
ReplyDeleteFantastic collection! Do you think you could take a photo with the Namiki #20 and #50 nibs as well for comparison? Cheers!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, how do you like writing with the Custom Urushi? How does it compare to your writing experiences with the 845, Yukari Royale, and Emperor?
hello Shu, the #30 nib is about the same size as MB149, it is softer than any of the #15, #20 and #50 nibs, i would update my another blog for a rough comparison of the pilot nibs. thanks again :D
ReplyDeletean amendment to the above comment is that the #30 nib is not softer than the #15 FA nib.
ReplyDeletewhat is the effect of bigger/smaller nib? (e.g. #5 v #10 v #15)
DeleteAnother question: where did you buy your Custom Urushi pen? It seems to be sold out all over Japan now. Thanks!
ReplyDeletethere was overwhelming demand for the Custom Urushi since launch in October 2016, i also hope the situation could be improved afterward.
ReplyDeleteCan you put up the different kinds of nibs? I just found out today they have a PO (posting) nib. Thanks.
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ReplyDeleteWould it be possible to know the feed measurements, like length and cross section diameter?
Thank you,
the visible part of the feed is about 24.3mm and the diameter is around 6.8mm. this is just a rough measurement and hope it helps.
ReplyDeleteHello, Thank you, which model did you measured. The 743?
ReplyDeleteoops, sorry, i just measured the Custom Urushi :D
ReplyDeleteThank you for this - super helpful demonstration of a very confusing series of pens!
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ReplyDeletePardon me for my ignorance! I am new to fountain pen hobby! Already own a Pilot Prera Fine with Nib #5. Like to write very fine letter.
ReplyDeleteInterested to buy CH912 Fine as well.
Question: Will bigger nib size #10 of Fine, write bigger letter compare to Nib #5 Fine? What is the significance of Nib size difference?
Thank You!
hello JENg, thanks for reading. the prera should have a F or M or calligraphy nib, it is not be marked as #5 nib. normally, the bigger size #10 Fine 14k gold nib should write the same stroke width as your prera Fine nib.
ReplyDeleteThank you for this post, by far one of the best comparisons imho, it has been immense help to me trying to figure out how the pilot numbering/naming works and also to understand the different sizes and collect what is best suited for me.
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ReplyDeleteThis blog post is fabulous--THANK YOU!!!
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To Unknown:
I too started with the Prera Fine and loved it (still do). I then got a Stella 90S aka a Stargazer in Fine and it writes incredibly smoothly and puts down just a tad wider line stroke. I'm thinking that it could be due to the weight of the pen (made of metal).
So I checked out the Pilot Penmanship which is an EF, and it puts down the line width that I wanted but is also a bit scratchy. So my next purchase was the Pilot Decimo with EF. I like this pen and nib combination a lot, but on occasion would wish for just a slightly more fine line width.
So I eventually discovered the Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with the PO (posting) nib and would say that I have found nirvana.
The bigger nib size does not make much of a difference in the writing as far as I can tell. Then again my experience is limited to only a couple of nib sizes.
I've researched and considered other pens from Platinum and Sailor (Sailor makes some pens that look very similar to the 912, and I have to say that I love the flat top pens over the cigar shapes), but until I win the lottery I think the 912 with PO is still the best pen for me. I now have 2 of them :-)
I like
- the lightweight feel of the pen (for long writing sessions)--made out of resin
- the rhodium (silver colored) accents
- the flat top and bottom
- the Converter 70 capacity and also ease of filling (easier than the twist of the Con50)
This nib is perfect for me: someone who writes very tiny letters in a kind of bastardized informal cursive italic (lots of joins but not nearly as pretty as real cursive italic).
Hope this helps a bit.
Everyone's journey with fountain pens is a little different--enjoy the ride :-)